Anarchist Threads in Church History: a primer on Christian anarchism, part 2

September 23, 2011Mark Van Steenwyk

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Editor’s Note: This is the second of a series offering a primer on Christian Anarchism. For part one, go here.

In my previous article, I tried to offer some introductory definitions of “anarchism” and “Christianity”–which are both too complex to define. This, therefore, presents some challenges in presenting a simple description to “Christian anarchism.”

In part two, I’ll briefly trace those historical Christian movements that express an “anarchic impulse.” What follows is by no means exhaustive. My goal in sharing them is to show that Graeber is right: “the basic principles of anarchism—self-organization, voluntary association, mutual aid—referred to forms of human behavior they assumed to have been around about as long as humanity.”1 Christian history has a number of examples that demonstrate an anarchic impulse and it is illustrative to see the common features between these groups. Notice that, for most of these groups, the anarchic tendencies of each group was intertwined with their own spiritual and theological convictions. It is important to see that there is something deeply lacking when we imagine a Christian anarchism that simply “slaps together” one’s Christianity and one’s anarchism. It is not only possible, but (I believe) necessary to have an anarchism that flows out of one’s spirituality (or, perhaps, vice versa).

So, what are some expressions of Christianity that authentically express the anarchic impulse?

A Brief Stroll Through History

The Early Church, some argue, was anarchistic. This is, of course, a bold claim. Everyone claims that the heart of their version of Christianity is expressed by the early church. Some of the early Christian communities seem to have practiced certain features of anarchism.

For example, the Jerusalem group, as described in Acts, shared their money and labor equally and fairly among the members. There are also indications of consensus decision making (Acts 15). Within Pauline Christianity, there are glimpses of mutual submission rather than hierarchy (Ephesians 5), a charismatic understanding of authority and power wherein no one person exclusively spoke for God…but anyone could manifest the Spirit (1 Corinthians 12-14), and a fundamental egalitarianism (Galatians 3 and Colossians 3).

Some, such as Ammon Hennacy, have claimed that a “shift” away from Jesus’ practices and teachings of nonviolence, simple living and freedom occurred in the theology of Paul of Tarsus. Hennacy (and others) suggest that Christians should look at returning to pre-”Pauline Christianity”. Personally, if we are discerning in what we attribute to Paul, and seek to understand the complexity of Paul’s context and rhetoric, we can see within Paul’s writings (as a glimpse at the nacent Christianity within the Roman Empire) something like anarchism.

Others point further down the road to the evolving relationship with the State leading to what many call the “Constantinian Shift.” We certainly see within the early centuries of the Church examples of a rejection of imperial religion, economics, and violence. Often, Christians saw themselves as a distinct socio-political reality which, while not necessarily anarchistic, certainly had many similar components.

Beguines and the Beghards were lay orders of women and men in the 12th to 14th centuries. They often lived a monsatic lifestyle together without formally taking vows. Communities were autonomous, largely egalitarian, and often challenged class distinctions. They found themselves in trouble with both the Church and the State, since the Beguines and Beghards often did things according to their own communal discernment. Many influential Beguines believed in an unmediated mystical connection with God, rendering the structures of the Church (and therefore the State) largely inconsequential.

Some Anabaptists (like many Mennonites/Amish/Hutterites) have lived largely autonomously and do not obey the secular government. However, such groups aren’t egalitarian and would not call themselves anarchists. In his essay on anarchism for the Encyclopedia Britannica, Peter Kropotkin traces the birth of anarchist thought in Europe to these early Anabaptist communities. After all, traditional Anabaptists often separate themselves from the functions and practices of the State. They usually embrace pacifism. And they sometimes practice communal property.

The Quakers (Society of Friends) are internally organized along anarchist lines. All decisions are made locally and by consensus (which has had a tremendous influence on modern anarchist decision making) and are largely egalitarian. While Quakers don’t usually bring such a mindset into a more robust anarchist politically theory, Quaker approaches to power and violence has led to significant cross-pollination between Christian Anarchists and Quakers.

The Diggers were a 17th century group of agrarian communists in England. They believed in holding land in common in small egalitarian rural communities. Founder of the movement, Gerrard Winstanley argued in his 1649 pamphlet Truth Lifting up its Head above Scandals that power corrupts, that property enslaves, and that freedom is only possible in a society without rulers. They were deeply influenced by the example given in the early chapters of Acts. The Diggers are a fascinating example of how the communist impulses of the early church inspired a communist agrarianism that, in turn, nurtured anarchistic understandings of authority. With the diggers, spirituality shapes economics, which in turn, shapes political understandings.

The Dukhobors were a Russian group of unknown origins (though they probably emerged in the 17th Century). They currently exist primarily in Canada. The Dukhobors reject secular government, Russian Orthodoxy, the supreme authority of Scripture, and the divinity of Jesus. Their spirituality is, like many Quakers, based upon the assumption that true spirituality is unmediated, thus rendering any mediative structures unnecessary.

The Tolstoyans were followers of the philosophical and religious views of Russian novelist Leo Tolstoy (1828–1910). They put particular emphasis on the Sermon on the Mount and other teachings of Jesus as a guide for life. They self-identified as Christians, though in a departure from some other forms of Christianity, they tend to focus more on the teachings of Jesus as a divinely-guided human rather than the Son of God. They do not participate in, or concern themselves with, governmental and worldly affairs, which they considered immoral and corrupt. Thus, they may be described as anarchists, though not all of them claimed that title. They embraced a deep pacifism–refusing to defend themselves and many were vegetarian or vegan. Tolstoy has had huge influence over Gandhi (and the develop of nonviolence) and European anarchism in general. It is important to note that Kropotkin recognized Christian Anarchism (as developed by Tolstoy) was one of four strands of anarchism in his day (early 1900s). The otehrs being the anarcho-communistis, Proudhonian, and literary-anarchism.

The Catholic Workers (particularly its founders) have honestly found common ground between a relatively “conservative” reading of Scripture and political anarchism. Their way of life has been centered around the practice of the works of mercy, a belief in personalism, and living communally in either houses of hospitality or farming communes. The workers have been deeply involved in anti-war and anti-nuke resistance and, in recent years, have been active in anti-globalization.

Liberation Theology in general, and the Ecclesial Base Communities in particular were not anarchist per se, but within this movement, there has been a huge reimagining of the authority of Church and of the State. Most liberationists seem to have a clear socialist bent, but there are anarchist sparks here and there. Within the spectrum of practices and understandings there was a push towards democratization in ways that approaches anarchism. Some liberationists drew inspiration from folks like Dorothy Day and Tolstoy, etc. While the influence of Marxist thought has been well researched, little attention has been given to the anarchist influences within Liberation Theology.2 Nevertheless, for many Christian anarchists, liberation theology has provided the most fertile intellectual soil for trying to grow a faith that integrates spirituality and political thought.

There are, of course, other groups worth mentioning. Many have been influenced by those movements that touch on an aspect of anarchist thought–like Francis’ approach to wealth, Wesley’s way of organizing small groups of faith and practice, the monastic approach to common life and mutuality, etc.  But I hope this overview gives you a taste.

Christian Anarchist Expressions Today

Most Christian Anarchists I’ve met have been conversant with the movements listed. Though, most haven’t emerged from these groups. I’ve met Christian Anarchists who join the Catholic Worker, become Mennonite (like myself), or participate in a Quaker meeting. But, for the most part, contemporary Christian Anarchists emerge out of decidedly mainstream Christian circles and become radicalized towards anarchism.

Many Christian Anarchists in North America were first introduced to anarchistic ideas in the writings of Shane Claiborne or Greg Boyd. Others, perhaps with more intellectual leanings, found their way to Christian Anarchism through reading John Howard Yoder or Stanley Hauerwas or, perhaps, Jaques Ellul. In North America today, the strongest network for Christian Anarchism remains, in my opinion, the Catholic Worker movement. Jesus Radicals has, over the past decade played a modest role in networking and gathering Christian Anarchists (primarily in the United States). Other notable networks or gatherings that have been somewhat friendly to North American Christian Anarchism have been Papa Fest (and through the not-very-networked New Monasticism movement). By all accounts, Christian Anarchism is on the rise. However, it isn’t gathering around a popular figure, organization, or movement. That is, in many ways, how it should be (though more organizing certainly needs to be done).

If possible I think it would be interesting to mention the differences between being anarchist towards government (but not the church i.e. Catholic Worker) and being more anarchist towards the church (but not so much towards government i.e. Quakers). It seems like the first is more focused on the centrality of the church and how scriptures reveals Jesus whereas the latter comes out of a belief in the Holy Spirit’s presence to govern and guide an individual.

Some Reflections

So, what can we learn from this stroll through history? How does it inform our own lives in this season? I welcome your own thoughts, but here are are six issues raised in this brief history lesson:

1) Every single one of the groups listed has been considered heretical, in some way, by the dominant religious groups of their time. This may seem like a “no duh,” but if a religious group is dominant, they won’t like anti-authoritarian tendencies among its religious adherents. Given this history, we shouldn’t expect denominations to willingly shift towards anarchism.

2) Many of these groups are “heretical” (or at least flirted with “heresy”) in more than one area. If we are intellectually honest, our anarchist impulses will affect more than simply our view of the government. The anarchist impulse causes us to rethink every relationship, including our relationships with spiritual authority (which may also include the Bible and Jesus). That doesn’t mean we all have to open up the doors of heresy. It is, however, to suggest that the anarchistic impulse doesn’t safely go with every expression of mainstream Christianity.

3) Most radical Christian groups either die out or mainstream. We should try to learn from those groups that still exist but haven’t mainstreamed.

4) You’ll notice a large gap from the early church to the Beguines. There were certainly anarchistic group during that time…and I even has strong suspicions about what they were. However, there isn’t as much information about fringe groups during the centuries when many heresies were suppressed so thoroughly that it is hard to know anything about the groups in question besides the caricatures by their adversaries. This isn’t to say that all such groups were nifty and worthy of emulation. However, we simply do not know how much such groups could inspire us in our own messy efforts to live faithfully in the midst of civilization. While it may seem as though it is unnecessary in our media age, it is important that we pass along our wisdom to the next generations. Even in my lifetime I’ve seen a communication gap between older radicals and folks in my generation (or younger). We need to learn how to share our best insights. We need to become evangelists in ways that subvert efforts at suppression.

5) While some groups influenced later groups, there isn’t a successive chain of radical Christianity. The anarchic impulse isn’t passed down through the ages like a baton. Rather, it emerges. We should marvel and respect the reality that the Spirit of God creates anarchy. We should be open to it wherever it emerges, which isn’t necessarily in the places we’d expect. This, it would seem, requires a posture of openness and hope that, even in the most unlikely of places, life breaks out like a weed sprouting through a crack in a sidewalk.

6) Every group (with the exception of the Tolstoyans) mentioned above had early founders and influencers who were mystics. And though Tolstoy was not a mystic, he did develop a sort of mysticism of nature later in life. In her work the Silent Cry, Dorothee Soelle points to the mystical nature of liberation. We would be wise to ground our anarchism in a real mysticism–one that embraces a sort of divine wildness that can empower us to love in an unloving world. One that gives us a glimpse of a reality that we can’t yet see.

In my next article, I’ll offer a brief overview of the anarchic thread in Scripture. From there, I’ll offer my thoughts about the tensions between modern “anarchisms” and anarchic Christianity. Finally, I’ll offer a constructive proposal that points towards an integrated approach to the anarchic way of Jesus that affirms the best of our traditions that avoids the trap of a simplistic mashup of Christianity and anarchism.

  1. from Graeber’s Fragments of an Anarchist Anthroplogy, p. 3
  2. For a rare example, see Linda H. Damico’s The Anarchist Dimension of Liberation Theology
  • epost

    Nice./Jonas

  • http://twitter.com/thejoeturner Joe Turner

    Of course you can’t put everything in a short article, but it seems to me to be amiss to not mention the Lollards and Wycliff.

    • http://markvans.info markvans

      I’m sure they could be included, but I’m not sure it is amiss. I also failed to mention the hussites. In both cases, I found, externally, a general affirmation of the power of secular government (especially with Wycliff). Internally, I can see a strong egalitarian impulse among some of the Lollards and they certainly could be said to have influenced the Peasant’s Revolt. But there were also Lollards who were fairly institutional. Because of the divergence of ideas, it was hard for me to decide whether to include them since many Lollards were anti-authoritarian, but others were not. The same could be said for various Hussites.

      • http://twitter.com/thejoeturner Joe Turner

        I agree that it it tricky to judge movements far away from us in time, yet I disagree with you regarding the Lollards being institutional. Given that they were widely seen as dangerous heretics and given their confessions, which were specifically designed to wind up the majority religious views – as early as the 14 century – I’d say that they were an early protegeny of later radical movements.

        Also I don’t want to sound like I’m criticising, in that my historical interests are not those of others.

        • http://markvans.info markvans

          That’s fair, Joe. It is likely that I should have included the Lollards. If you know of a good historical summary online that you can point me to (besides wikipedia), I’d happily consider inserting them into this article.

  • Sufilizard

    Thanks Mark, I’ve really enjoyed reading this series. I’ve been fascinated by the “heretical” movements throughout Christianity.

  • Mark Fish

    This topic requires a book or books to cover – perhaps you are working on that very thing. As you mention, there is a big gap between the early xtians and Beguines and Beghards. Perhaps you can look into the Novationists, the Donatists, Nestorians, Waldensians, and the Lollards as examples of xtian groups with an anarchist bent.

    • http://markvans.info markvans

      I agree that a book or a series would be better for this. And I’d be more than happy to contribute towards something like that if we could bring together some great people to write something accessible. My concern would that it would be too academic.

      I agree that one could look at many more groups. I wanted to give a short overview and decided to highlight the groups that I personally thought stood out. I suspect others would compile a different list.

      • epost

        In that case, can´t the same be said about the anabaptists? Most, if not all, seems to have accepted (and still do) the role of secular government “outside of the perfection of Christ” (to cite Schleitheim). Even obedience to the authorities seems to have been promoted by most, excluding certain things considered as against the teachings of Jesus (like the oath, the sword, children´s baptism etc).

        In fact, I would like to discuss this in some more detail, if someone is interested. Personally, I came to anarchism largely via Yoder and (later) (the study of) historical anabaptism, but my conclusion nowadays is that I am very hesitant to calling anabaptism “anarchistic”, since anabaptism almost always presupposes an eschatological view that accepts an important role for the state in god´s plan until the final day. To be a bit mean, isn´t the anabaptist view of the state kind of marxist (it will wither away eventually, but we do need it for now)?
        /Jonas Lundström, Sweden
        http://www.jlundstrom.se

        • http://markvans.info markvans

          There are certainly folks who consider themselves Christian Anarchists (like Vernard Eller or Greg Boyd) who have something like a two-kingdoms approach. They are anarchists only in the sense that they see the Church as outside of the rule of government. And while obedience to that government is still taught by many Anabaptists, others did not suggest such obedience.

          It is true that Anabaptists almost always have an eschatology that accepts a role for the state. But this isn’t always the case. The early Anabaptists were an amazingly diverse bunch. In many ways, I’m as much a Muntzerite as I am a Mennonite in my way of understanding Anabaptism.

          But my point isn’t to say that the Anabaptists are anarchists, but simply that they (like every other group on this list) have an anarchic tendency in some way. None of these groups are fully anarchist in the way that most anarchists would affirm.

          • epost

            yeah, yeah. i agree./jonas

      • Anonymous

        Hi Mark…as I mentioned below, Alex’s book Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel may have done some of this compiling. Not saying there isn’t room for more on the topic, but it might be worth checking out what he has already covered: http://sites.google.com/site/christoyannopoulos/publications/christian-anarchism-a-political-commentary-on-the-gospel

  • Maxpercy00

    What about the desert fathers and mothers and monasticism itself? That 1,000 year jump seems to replicate the post enlightenment protestant bias against Orthodox and Roman Christians.

    • ric hudgens

      I agree. Another possibility might be the Celtic Church. In his book The Celtic Revolution: A Study in Anti-Imperialism, Peter Beresford Ellis refers to the Celtic Church’s “natural anarchism”.

      • http://markvans.info markvans

        Ric, do you know of other sources on that as well? As I understand Celtic Christianity, it was more egalitarian, but hardly anti-authoritarian. It was, however, fairly anti-imperial. I tried to include within my overview those communities that had stated anti-authoritarian tendencies on principal, rather than in specific situations or those communities that embodied a sort of internal anarchist tendency.

        • ric hudgens

          Mark, I don’t know as much about the Celtic Church as I would like to (I am of Welsh ancestry). I think your criteria around anti-authoritarianism makes sense from a contemporary perspective. It would be arguable that the Celtic Church could fall easily into that category. I guess I wonder if your criteria is why there is such a large gap between the early churches and the Beguines. The place of authority and the “great chain of being” were so fundamental to seemingly everyone’s worldview.

          • ric hudgens

            In this 1971 article in the Libertarian Forum (!) there is an argument by editor Joe Peden beginning on page 3 that Celtic society was indeed stateless and “anarchistic”. It was a kinship society, without a state enforced legal system, nor any coinage. There is authority but it is kinship rather than legal authority. Peden quotes some sources there, but clearly if one has to go back forty years to an obscure journal article we are drawing from a very shallow well (http://mises.org/journals/lf/1971/1971_04.pdf).

          • http://markvans.info markvans

            It certainly would be an area worth further research for any fledgling graduate students out there.

            It also shows me that there is a needed place for a series of books on Christian Anarchism that bring together biblical study, historical inquiry, anarchist theology, and Christian anarchist practices. I don’t know if it would have a wide readership, but I think it could go a long way to nurture things.

          • http://markvans.info markvans

            That’s possible. On the one hand, I want to honor the influences and tendencies that are there, but I don’t want to force it. That’s why I generally avoided the mendicants and monastics, because (even though I respect them and am inspired by them in my own commitments, I don’t think it is fair to them to suggest they have strong anarchist tendencies. It would be easier to make the claim that such groups have quasi-Marxist tendencies).

    • http://markvans.info markvans

      I’m open to criticism on this. However, most of the work I’ve seen (and I completely recognize that I am not a historian) seems like romantic anachronism. My examples have included those that have articulated, one way or another, something that we recognize as anarchistic. If you could point me to research that shows that the desert fathers or mothers or monastics articulated anarchistic sentiments towards the established order, or that they were anarchistic in their own practices, it would help quite a bit.

    • http://markvans.info markvans

      If I am guilty of a bias, it is probably the Anabaptist way of reading history, rather than a post-enlightenment bias.

  • A J MacDonald Jr

    I don’t see the need for christian anarchism. Using the term itself for christians, as christians are under authority of the church and the state according to the bible, and must obey unless commanded to do something God forbids. There’s no way your theory can be justified scripturally and I see it as counterproductive theologically, because it doesn’t make the scriptures more clear, but less clear, and it doesn’t bring the people of God closer to doing what we are to do, but pushes us further away. It may be easier to reject both church and the bible for what you think is better, but it’s not better and only lead you and others away from what we are supposed to be doing, regardless of how sincere you are. I am sympathetic to what you are saying, but it can’t be justified theologically or biblically, which, as I see, it, is very problematic.

    • http://markvans.info markvans

      You’re making a lot of assertions without backing them up. Which is part of the problem. Most folks assume that the Bible affirms things like we’re under the “authority” of the “church” and “state”–without realizing that their ways of defining these things are shaped more by modern notions than by the Bible itself. There is no such thing in the Bible as the “state” as we understand it today and never once does it say that we are under its authority. Rather, Paul argues taht we should submit to the “governing authorities” employing a similar logic as Jesus uses when calling folks to “turn the other cheek” as a form of enemy love. Likewise, submission in the church is communicated by Paul as call to mutual submission, rather than submission to some sort of hierarchy.

      So, before assuming that Christian anarchism is something that cannot be justified theologically or biblically, perhaps you should question how much your own views can honestly be justified. And then you should stay tuned to this series and do some further digging of your own before dismissing things.

  • Keith Hebden

    Including the Diggers is problematic since Winstanley was in favour of the state authority as well as seeing the land as a ‘common treasury’.

    But where’s William Blake? He was both a Christian anarchist and as mad as a box of frogs. A brilliant mix, I reckon.

    • http://markvans.info markvans

      Keith, could you show me where WInstanley believes in state authority? Also, does his view of land as a common treasury presuppose that that common holding is maintained by the state?

      The reason Blake isn’t included is because I only examined movements or communities, not individuals. The list of influential individuals would look very different than this list.

  • A J MacDonald Jr

    The scriptures are very plain, the apostolic leadership found in the Book of Acts, and submission to authority in St Paul, for example. The anarchist position you advocate is very good on some points, such as local community and sustainability, which I am all for and which the Bible affirms, yet it is way off the mark when it comes to supposed leaderless organization and the rejection of government. Mutual submission is something you are putting forward without acknowledging the episcopal leadership evident in the Bible and throughout the history of the church, from its earliest days till today. Turning the other cheek concerns personally affronts only, not resisting evil, self defense, protection of our neighbors, or ever throwing-off criminal government in order to establish just government. You are advocating the opposite of what Christ commanded us to do: go into the world and make disciples. Like the Amish and the Mennonites, which I guess you are one of, you somehow seem to think Christians should ghettoize the gospel rather than act as leaven in the world. This might be great for your personal, individual salvation (although actually it’s not), but it does little (no) good for society. The biggest problem America faces today is exactly what you support: being uninvolved in government and society. Get out of the ghetto and help make America a better place by being involved. Your mindset seems to resemble those who, rather than doing the hard world of claiming society and government for truth and justice for all, they stockpile food, gold and weapons for their families and their friends in Idaho. I suggest you get involved in the world rather than reject it. And study Catholic theology, which has the accumulated wisdom of 2,000 years of biblical thinkers, rather that 10 or 20 years of our own thinking, which is like reinventing the wheel. These issues have already been faced and dealt with by Catholic theology and it’s foolish to ignore the wisdom found therein. There is nothing sillier than to see Mennonites in PA wearing old fashioned clothing and driving black sedans somehow thinking their separation from society makes them somehow more pleasing to God. The Amish are, of course, the worst example of the ghettoization of the light of the Gospel. Like Jesus said “Hide your light under a bushel” rather than “Don’t hide your light under a bushel.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/elpolloloco52 Josh Adkisson

      Your claim that “the scriptures are very plain” is an assertion. That would be all well and good, except that it not backed up by anything more than your explanation of what your assertion entails, which, as I’m sure both of us can agree, is not really of any value.

      As for your explanation, however, you present a very skewed view of both scripture and society. Without going through point by point, I’d like to note a couple of things.

      Turning the other cheek: where on earth you get the idea that turning the other cheek applies only to “personal affronts,” I have no idea. What about when St. Paul says that we should not return evil for evil, but return evil with good? What about when Jesus says, right before he talks about turning the other cheek, “Do not resist the one who is evil”? I’m sorry, but I fail to detect in scripture any indication that “turn the other cheek” applies solely to “personal affronts.”

      Second, you seem to believe that being involved in government is the most important part of being a Christian, and that those who “ghettoize” the gospel are being secluded. Perhaps it is you who ought to look at Catholic theology. What many Christian anarchists support (especially the new monastics) is in the same vein as what older monastic orders have been doing for two thousand years–indeed, some Christian anarchists are in old monastic orders. Which brings us to your guess that we’re all a bunch of Amish and Mennonites. Many of us are Mennonites, yes, but not exclusively, and not (as you seem to believe) people who wear old fashioned clothes and live on farms. There is an equally large number of Catholic anarchists, and many of other denominations (even some Baptists, apparently), who are not secluded. Indeed, you can’t seem to decide whether we’re off living by ourselves somewhere, or living in the ghettos. Which leads to the next point: we aren’t stockpiling gold and weapons. You can verify this empirically: ask anyone on here how they live, and whether they stockpile stuff, and I think you’ll get your answer.

      In fact, I’m not even going to get into the rest of this. You obviously did not read the article, otherwise you would realize that this isn’t something from the last ten or twenty years. Given that, I don’t expect you to actually read what I say either. The problem is that you aren’t just making honest mistakes about what we believe; you’re ignorant. I don’t throw that word around lightly, either. Anyone on here, including myself, would be happy to have a civil discussion with you, but as with all discussions, there are requirements that both sides must meet. These include, but are not limited to, paying attention to what the other party is saying, paying attention to what the other party believes, and not making wild assumptions about the other party. These are the basics. I call you ignorant because you have no interest in doing any of these things, and instead tell us how we’re wrong, as if, upon reading it, we will all realize the error in our ways and repent. If anything, it is an arrogant ignorance. If you would like to discuss these things in the way that people normally discuss things, then feel free to do so. If, however, all you want to do is lecture us about the nature of reality, society, and scripture, feel free to stop commenting. I don’t think this is unfair or harsh–it is simply a statement that no one will give you time of day if you don’t give it to them, starting with attention and a desire to actually understand.

    • Travis

      wut

    • Stefan

      I think your ignorance about all things Anabaptist is sillier than the dress codes of Mennonites in Lancaster. Honestly, I don’t understand how you can comment on here while you know nothing about Mark or anybody else here for that matter. Mark challenged you because you’re making a lot of assertions without backing them up. You went even further here. Saying “the Bible affirms” before or after anything you say might give credence to your claim for some people but it doesn’t really help here.

      Instead of letting you assume I live on an isolated farm with other Mennonites, I’ll put it out there. I am in Iraq with CPT, a non-profit that Mennonites had a hand in starting.

      Also, check this out http://www.mennonitemission.net

  • paul munn

    It is helpful to point to the various real people throughout history who demonstrated some of the anarchistic aspects of following Jesus. But maybe even more helpful to demonstrate those aspect ourselves, showing how they can be lived in our time and place (or even simply that they can be lived here and now). Real, concrete, and practical examples are crucial. That’s what we see in Jesus.

    Anarchists, while often offering good critiques and well thought-out analyses, have often been weak in providing real, practical alternatives (from what I’ve seen, at least). The anarcho-primitivists are just the most recent and obvious example of this. Thus anarchists so often come across as merely critics, just throwing ideological bricks (if not real ones) at the real attempts others are making. Even if the critique is accurate, it’s not much help if no concrete alternatives are offered, or if the proposed alternatives are not possible for people to live here and now.

    Even if Jesus’ teachings seem impossible to live by in this world, he showed it was possible (with a little divine intervention perhaps). That kind of lived example can really give people hope. It’s hard for others to say it’s not possible if we’re doing it. And it’s hard for others to say it’s against God, if God seems to be supporting it in our lives, and our lives are beautiful.

    • epost

      I am not sure how well you know the anarchist milieu? I once agreed with your critique, but since I became more active and less scared of “secular” anarchists, I have discovered that there are a lot of alternative building. Direct action, squats, collectives, veganism, organisations, support for immigrants and much more. I recommend Peter Gelderloos Anarchy Works for some examples.

      That said, of course (?) the alternatives can never fully prosper as long as we have this rotten, filthy system in place, they will always suffer from persecution, compromise and threats of assimilation. (+ ofcourse the inner tensions)
      /Jonas Lundström, Sweden

      • http://cimarronline.blogspot.com/2004/05/paul-munn.html paul munn

        That book looks interesting, Jonas. Thanks. (And in good anarchist fashion, it’s available free here.)

        From a brief perusal, though (and correct me if I’m wrong), many of the examples are similar to what I’ve seen before. For significant anarchist alternatives (like providing healthcare, removing the need for wages, defense against oppressors, etc) large numbers of organized people are required. In certain places and times in history this has been possible to some extent. But for the vast majority of us, those alternatives are not possible now, where we are. We can try to work in that direction, “convert” more people, organize, but the life we hope for is usually not achievable by the means anarchists offer. We just can’t get enough people to agree and cooperate.

        I think this also points to a place where anarchism (as a political approach) stands in stark contrast with Jesus. He did not achieve his freedoms and anarchistic life through organizing large numbers of people. Jesus’ message was not “Organize.” The kingdom of God was offered to us here and now as a gift of God, and his life was an example of what that looks like.

      • http://cimarronline.blogspot.com/2004/05/paul-munn.html Paul Munn

        That book looks interesting, Jonas. Thanks. (And in good anarchist fashion, it’s available free here.)

        From a brief perusal, though (and correct me if I’m wrong), many of the examples are similar to what I’ve seen before. For significant anarchist alternatives (like making healthcare accessible, removing the necessity of wage labor, defending against oppressors, etc) large numbers of organized people are required. In certain places and times in history this has been possible to some extent. But for the vast majority of us, those alternatives are not possible now, where we are. We can try to work in that direction, “convert” more people, organize, but the life we hope for is usually not achievable by the means anarchists offer. We just can’t get enough people to agree and cooperate.

        I think this also points to a place where anarchism (as a political approach) stands in stark contrast with Jesus. He did not achieve his freedoms and anarchistic life through organizing large numbers of people. Jesus’ message was not “Organize.” The kingdom of God was offered to us here and now as a gift of God, and his life was an example of what that looks like.

        • epost

          Well, I´ve met different kinds of anarchists, even those who disregard (large-scale) “organizing” altogether (John Zerzan or the insurrectionists would be among those, I guess) or who take to the woods (since you mention anarcho-primitivists) and try to live it themselves. The german anarchist Gustav Landauer proposed establishing self-sufficient communities in the country side, rather that trying to reform society at large. His thought influenced among other Eberhard Arnold, the founder of the Bruderhof movement. And there are other examples, of course.

          And of course, the question to you is how much christians has been living the life of Jesus through the centuries. My guess would be that if you compare numbers, a radical life is far more common among anarchists than among christians. Theologically, this shouldn´t be the case of course, but maybe we should question our theology then, rather than try distort our view on the world. (Not to say that you do that.)
          /Jonas

          • http://cimarronline.blogspot.com/2004/05/paul-munn.html paul munn

            Do you see the Bruderhof as an anarchistic society? I thought it tended to be pretty authoritarian. At least that’s what I’ve heard from people who’ve lived in a Bruderhof community. I haven’t heard of many of the outspoken primitivists I’ve encountered taking to the woods. Is that really an option for most people?

            But I have no desire here to say Christians are better than anarchists. Only that Jesus offers something much better, that we can live here and now. That’s perhaps a challenge to most Christians even more than anarchists.

          • epost

            Paul. I was not saying that Bruderhof are anarchists, but there are some anarchistic tendencies. I was just trying to say that I think the Bruderhof in several ways gave flesh to Landauer´s vision.

            Well, the a-p:s that have taken to the woods, you wouldn´t come across all the time, naturally. I don´t know how many there are, but I have visited at least a couple of them… But no, I don´t think that´s an option for the majority. And I am not promoting anarcho-primitivism here, I am just trying to show that I think there are some evidence that you might be writing off the anarchists to easy.

            As to Jesus, for his “offer” to feel real to me, you need to show me that there have been and still are people really living his way. Otherwise it feels like just another theory. Personally, I have been looking intensly for this reality for several years, but I think there are extremely few people out there, if any, that obey the teachings of Jesus, or even try seriously to do it. The majority of christians are, as I guess you know, either unfamiliar or uninterested in the teachings and life of Jesus.

          • http://cimarronline.blogspot.com/2004/05/paul-munn.html paul munn

            “As to Jesus, for his ‘offer’ to feel real to me, you need to show me that there have been and still are people really living his way.” Yes, yes, that’s exactly my point. We need to show people this.

            I think our recognition of the lack of good examples is also part of our being personally called to become those good examples ourselves. Become the kind of disciple we long to see in the world.

            I’d also say that we shouldn’t expect to see good examples of people living Jesus’ way in large numbers, or as a homogeneous society. Even Jesus’ own community was not large and not homogeneously radical. We need to look for the good examples mixed into communities in which the majority are probably not very good examples. (And we also must be good examples, not once we find a perfect community, but in the midst of mediocre communities.)

            Does that make sense? Have you really not seen any good examples of anarchistic Jesus followers that you admire, living lives that you would like to live?

          • http://thetheologyofjoe.wordpress.com/ Joe

            Well I spent a lot of time with, and thinking about, the Bruderhof in the last year (actually they don’t like to be called that any more – but are currently trying to come up with a more interesting name than Church Communities International, which is their official title). I certainly wouldn’t describe them as anarachist on one level, as they operate within quite tight thought-boundaries. On the other hand, they’ve been mistreated by so many state entities that they’re much more reliant on their own internal resources (as a community) than any state. In a very real way they are Stateless.

            I have a lot of respect, and some criticisms of them. Mostly my criticisms are that they are almost totally unengaged with the issues of the rest of the world – and if that is what anarchism really looks like, I’m not interested.

  • http://profiles.google.com/jake.olzen Jake Olzen

    While not specifically Christian, the Biblical tradition does hint at anarchist leanings for the early Israelites – especially Samuel’s misgivings about appointing a King for the emerging nation Israel. Even God laments and gives way to the pressures of the people who wish themselves to be like other nations (1 Sam 8). A subtle reading of the Books of Kings (Wes Howard-Brook’s “Come Out My People” and Dan Berrigan’s “The Kings and Their Gods” are extraordinary in revealing an obscured criticism of state authority) suggest that centralized and hierarchical forms of state governance are contrary to God’s intention for how community’s are organized. Walter Brueggeman also has some good work in both “Prophetic Imagination” and “An Unsettling God” that point toward how the Covenant (should) directs the way the people of God are to behave and interact socially, politically, economically – all forms of relationship that governance seeks to regulate. All of this is to say that there are clear anarchist tendencies within the OT and Hebrew scripture. Thanks, Mark.

  • Anonymous

    More reading recommendations… a UK co-conspirer named Alexandre Christoyannopoulos has done extensive research on this topic if people are interested. Here is a paper be presented called “Christian Anarchism: A Revolutionary Reading of the Bible http://www.wiscnetwork.org/ljubljana2008/papers/WISC_2008-11.pdf and he recently released a book that is now available in paperback called Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel http://sites.google.com/site/christoyannopoulos/publications/christian-anarchism-a-political-commentary-on-the-gospel

  • primaltruth

    This article and things said in this discussion I find inspiring. There is likely more of interest to be said of such historical groups. I am encouraged to think, for the present times, of joining in a group separating for egalitarian Christian practice, or to play a part in the production of one. My view certainly is it should move from being a supportive part of civilization, for which I have given reason effectively before. I expect to communicate with some others relating to this. Maybe some here at JR … Andy Lewis, are you here still? Maybe one will have an internet group started for things relating to that, or I might think of it.

  • http://www.mutations-radicales.org Zora

    Thanks for these interesting ideas.
    Finally, the most important is not so much to know in what school of thought we are, but rather:
    What sort of project do we have for ourselves and the planet?
    Do we have valid ideas, universal and applicable to each humans?
    Are we able to implement them? With who and how?

    The various anarchist and Christians “school of thought”, and more productive ones synthesizing the two, feeding on very interesting thoughts and practices.
    But most important is to fully open our hearts and minds to the realities of this world and to the call to build a different world here and together, to open ourselves to God and our demands for personal change, turn to love and sharing universal.
    And to have a chance to do that, we must get out of the boxes, all boxes, including anarchists and Christian. We must not anymore think and act rigidly according to some thought or religion, based on a book (even the Gospels or Bible, this is an anarchist point of vue!) or a chapel, but according to our deep conscience enlightened by a direct relationship with God through a form of mystical contact, free and without intermediaries or chief.

    Otherwise, we risk walking in circles, repeating local cultures and traditions, to be trapped in our fears, limitations and ruts, being unable to see the whole project. We may not change everything and not feel what is really just and good.
    Love, commitment in radical revolutionary (yet non-violent), involves rather sweep everything in the breath of God to rebuild everything anew, inside us and around the world.

    If God exist, he-she is the same everywhere, so the spirituality is the same for everybody, and the utopist project for this planet and all life forms can be the same for everybody. So every true follower of “God voice” should work with others to build a better world now.

    (Sorry for this bad english, I’m french!;-))

  • Adam Clark

    For those that are interested there is a list of Christian anarchist quotes here:

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism

    and some images here:

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Christian_anarchism

  • karen

    This is a great series. Thankyou! I am in Australia and consider myself a mystical anarchist that is I do not abide by any one approach to religion but have been influenced in my upbringing by Christianity, later moved into explorations of hinduism, then buddhism and then suffism. You may think this is a type of post modern shopping around but I am of the belief that as an anarchist openess and exploration are central. It is great that you use Graeber in your pieces. I would love to see a pamphlet and your blogs have helped me to write up my MA. I will send you a copy when I finish in june. Basically i am using three anarchists, Graeber, Timothy Morton and Simon Critchley and expounding their contemporary texts following two questions , what do they tell us about human understandings of religion today and what do they tell us about revolution vis – a – vis violence and nonviolence. These three are all anarchists of some and with the exception of D Graeber have recently come into anarchism. My overarching interest is in the idea of the free spirit as it recurs in history. Once again thank you for this clear, open and in my opinion important series. Rebellion is an act of love.

  • Franz Glauber Vanderlinde

    Following my efforts to translate this series to Portuguese, here is the link for this article: http://ciudaddelpico.com/blog/vestigios-anarquistas-na-historia-da-igreja-um-compendio-sobre-anarquismo-cristao-parte-2-de-5

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